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		<title>Comment on Obama&#8217;s Informal Language by Mike</title>
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		<description>Just passing by.Btw, your website have great content!

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		<title>Comment on A response to the Comments of &#8220;Bryan.&#8221; by bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just finished two grants and i&#039;m incredibly scatterbrained right now, but there were some points i wanted to address and question. i guess i&#039;m posting here to mark that intention and remind myself for when i have time. 

but before i do that, i am interested in hearing more about your thoughts regarding &quot;acts of poetry&quot; and &quot;acts of power&quot;, if you get the chance. do you think that it is necessary that power and poetry are contradictory categories? i guess i&#039;m asking this because i&#039;m thinking about history, archival knowledge, and mythologies (cultural, national, gender and otherwise) and how poetry and literature are often their condition of possibility in constructing a coherent discourse. 

&#039;poetic knowledge is born in the great silence of scientific knowledge&#039; - aime cesaire

but i&#039;m also thinking about how that quote might also apply to scientific discourses being understood as a consensus of shared vocabulary and a controlled environment, and how poetry can contribute to our political imagination as an inventive language that investigates symbolism, singularity and the errancy of categories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just finished two grants and i&#8217;m incredibly scatterbrained right now, but there were some points i wanted to address and question. i guess i&#8217;m posting here to mark that intention and remind myself for when i have time. </p>
<p>but before i do that, i am interested in hearing more about your thoughts regarding &#8220;acts of poetry&#8221; and &#8220;acts of power&#8221;, if you get the chance. do you think that it is necessary that power and poetry are contradictory categories? i guess i&#8217;m asking this because i&#8217;m thinking about history, archival knowledge, and mythologies (cultural, national, gender and otherwise) and how poetry and literature are often their condition of possibility in constructing a coherent discourse. </p>
<p>&#8216;poetic knowledge is born in the great silence of scientific knowledge&#8217; &#8211; aime cesaire</p>
<p>but i&#8217;m also thinking about how that quote might also apply to scientific discourses being understood as a consensus of shared vocabulary and a controlled environment, and how poetry can contribute to our political imagination as an inventive language that investigates symbolism, singularity and the errancy of categories.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Notes to Self on Political Poetry by A response to the Comments of &#8220;Bryan.&#8221; &#171; Graystate</title>
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		<dc:creator>A response to the Comments of &#8220;Bryan.&#8221; &#171; Graystate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] January 13, 2009 by graystate    In response to Bryan&#8217;s comment on my post from December 29th. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Notes to Self on Political Poetry by graystate</title>
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		<dc:creator>graystate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A response to the comments of &quot;Bryan.&quot;
If productive and/or just exchange is the object, I would think that &quot;patient translation of difference&quot; is preferable.  &quot;Translation&quot; is an apt term here because my position is not that all differences can be easily reduced to their common denominator and solved.  My purpose is not to advocate a simplified solution to politics as we know it: &quot;Oh, Israel and Gaza!  Can&#039;t you see that you&#039;re just being divisive?  Israel, can&#039;t you see those rocket attacks you hate so much are just cries out for attention?  Hamas just wants to love you!  And Gaza, you know how Israel has been killing hundreds of your citizens every week in response to near-harmless rocket attacks?  Well, that&#039;s just Israel&#039;s way of hugging!  You&#039;re really just the same!&quot;
Ahem.  I think in the privileged west, we tend to be dismissive and arrogant when we need not be.  Perhaps this is common either because that is the American character, or it is the American character because this is how we practice communication.
Do I privilege certain discourses over others?  Yes, though my point is not to do so but to privilege certain discourse styles over others.  If one can present a reasonable persona, one is better prepared to engage effectively, whatever the issue, whatever the goal is.  A reasonable persona in this case is open and fair, not dismissive and arrogant.

&quot;Are there circumstances where we can justly occupy a position of intransigence?&quot;  

Certainly.  Not all things can be resolved simply, but presenting one&#039;s position reasonably, without dismissiveness or arrogance, will create a healthier exchange, which will open (or fail to close) the possibility of resolution.

&quot;Is grace or compassion the only poetic challenge we can face against despicable acts of &#039;power&#039;?&quot;

The use of the word &quot;poetic&quot; here seems multiplicitous.  Taken literally, I do not believe poetry can combat power.  Perhaps once it could have, but I simply don&#039;t feel that it is relevant, anymore.  Figuratively, if poetry is the opposite of rhetoric, as Lorde suggests, then public discourse itself has the potential to be acts of poetry (compassionate, yet not divisive, as with Dove) instead of acts of power.  Here, I think there is a chance I am contradicting myself, and there is no better time to contradict oneself than when discussing poetry because it&#039;s a fine transition to quoting Whitman from &quot;Song of Myself&quot; (http://www.bartleby.com/142/14.html):

Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)

Of course, this is a can of worms.  One could read this as intransigence - &quot;I will not budge, despite my lack of reason.&quot;  This would reveal an irrational position, a divisive one in a sense.  One could also read it as the opposite, as the rough synthesis of two positions (the statement, the contradiction, and the acknowledgment of the disunity between the two) Never mind.  

&quot;Is consensus the only way to &#039;move forward&#039;?&quot;

I can&#039;t imagine what &quot;move forward&quot; means, but I think striving for a reasonable dialogue is different from striving for consensus.  Consensus is nice, but it is a dream.  Perhaps Democracy is its contemporary (though not perpetual) waking-life equivalent, at least in the context to which the blog is addressed - political discourse.  

One last note: the name of this blog is &quot;Graystate&quot; - this is chosen deliberately because it&#039;s not blue, not red, and not purple.  Gray is not a blending of two opposites, but a third position that comes from observing and opposing the two.  In the metaphor, I am not suggesting that I have the solution, the synthesis of competing theses/anitheses, nor am I suggesting that the matter is simply black and white (which is good because &quot;white state&quot; or &quot;black state&quot; or &quot;black and white states&quot; would have been comically racially suggestive.  This would certainly have increased my hits from white supremacists - haha.  They&#039;re dumb - note the intransigence in that statement, and in fact the divisiveness and arrogance, which is apt for my supposed audience, though it would certainly be a turn-off to some readers who might happen by).  At best, this blog asks, what happens when blue and red make gray?  I don&#039;t know, and there is not a definite aim here.  I don&#039;t think I dream of &quot;a better democracy&quot; or a replacement of democracy, and this meager blog certainly wouldn&#039;t have any impact on either of those goals.  It must be, then, just an exercise, a passing of time by chewing on culture, perhaps with some vague hope that someday I&#039;ll think of something useful to do with it (note the multiplicitous/ambiguous pronoun use).

Touch base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A response to the comments of &#8220;Bryan.&#8221;<br />
If productive and/or just exchange is the object, I would think that &#8220;patient translation of difference&#8221; is preferable.  &#8220;Translation&#8221; is an apt term here because my position is not that all differences can be easily reduced to their common denominator and solved.  My purpose is not to advocate a simplified solution to politics as we know it: &#8220;Oh, Israel and Gaza!  Can&#8217;t you see that you&#8217;re just being divisive?  Israel, can&#8217;t you see those rocket attacks you hate so much are just cries out for attention?  Hamas just wants to love you!  And Gaza, you know how Israel has been killing hundreds of your citizens every week in response to near-harmless rocket attacks?  Well, that&#8217;s just Israel&#8217;s way of hugging!  You&#8217;re really just the same!&#8221;<br />
Ahem.  I think in the privileged west, we tend to be dismissive and arrogant when we need not be.  Perhaps this is common either because that is the American character, or it is the American character because this is how we practice communication.<br />
Do I privilege certain discourses over others?  Yes, though my point is not to do so but to privilege certain discourse styles over others.  If one can present a reasonable persona, one is better prepared to engage effectively, whatever the issue, whatever the goal is.  A reasonable persona in this case is open and fair, not dismissive and arrogant.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are there circumstances where we can justly occupy a position of intransigence?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Certainly.  Not all things can be resolved simply, but presenting one&#8217;s position reasonably, without dismissiveness or arrogance, will create a healthier exchange, which will open (or fail to close) the possibility of resolution.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is grace or compassion the only poetic challenge we can face against despicable acts of &#8216;power&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
<p>The use of the word &#8220;poetic&#8221; here seems multiplicitous.  Taken literally, I do not believe poetry can combat power.  Perhaps once it could have, but I simply don&#8217;t feel that it is relevant, anymore.  Figuratively, if poetry is the opposite of rhetoric, as Lorde suggests, then public discourse itself has the potential to be acts of poetry (compassionate, yet not divisive, as with Dove) instead of acts of power.  Here, I think there is a chance I am contradicting myself, and there is no better time to contradict oneself than when discussing poetry because it&#8217;s a fine transition to quoting Whitman from &#8220;Song of Myself&#8221; (<a href="http://www.bartleby.com/142/14.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.bartleby.com/142/14.html)</a>:</p>
<p>Do I contradict myself?<br />
Very well then I contradict myself,<br />
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)</p>
<p>Of course, this is a can of worms.  One could read this as intransigence &#8211; &#8220;I will not budge, despite my lack of reason.&#8221;  This would reveal an irrational position, a divisive one in a sense.  One could also read it as the opposite, as the rough synthesis of two positions (the statement, the contradiction, and the acknowledgment of the disunity between the two) Never mind.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Is consensus the only way to &#8216;move forward&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine what &#8220;move forward&#8221; means, but I think striving for a reasonable dialogue is different from striving for consensus.  Consensus is nice, but it is a dream.  Perhaps Democracy is its contemporary (though not perpetual) waking-life equivalent, at least in the context to which the blog is addressed &#8211; political discourse.  </p>
<p>One last note: the name of this blog is &#8220;Graystate&#8221; &#8211; this is chosen deliberately because it&#8217;s not blue, not red, and not purple.  Gray is not a blending of two opposites, but a third position that comes from observing and opposing the two.  In the metaphor, I am not suggesting that I have the solution, the synthesis of competing theses/anitheses, nor am I suggesting that the matter is simply black and white (which is good because &#8220;white state&#8221; or &#8220;black state&#8221; or &#8220;black and white states&#8221; would have been comically racially suggestive.  This would certainly have increased my hits from white supremacists &#8211; haha.  They&#8217;re dumb &#8211; note the intransigence in that statement, and in fact the divisiveness and arrogance, which is apt for my supposed audience, though it would certainly be a turn-off to some readers who might happen by).  At best, this blog asks, what happens when blue and red make gray?  I don&#8217;t know, and there is not a definite aim here.  I don&#8217;t think I dream of &#8220;a better democracy&#8221; or a replacement of democracy, and this meager blog certainly wouldn&#8217;t have any impact on either of those goals.  It must be, then, just an exercise, a passing of time by chewing on culture, perhaps with some vague hope that someday I&#8217;ll think of something useful to do with it (note the multiplicitous/ambiguous pronoun use).</p>
<p>Touch base.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Notes to Self on Political Poetry by bryan</title>
		<link>http://graystate.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/notes-to-self-on-political-poetry/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geez, i should be working. but it&#039;s been a while since i&#039;ve remembered to stop by this site and read. because i haven&#039;t had the opportunity to closely follow this blog, this passage lacks context for me other than a conversation we had over the phone while i was shopping about otherness and the polarization of political discourse. 

so, because of that, i&#039;m not sure what your post is trying to communicate. are you saying that patient translation of difference, compassionate negotiation of otherness, allows for a more productive or just relation of exchange? i&#039;m not sure if i dispute that. but then i wonder, also, if you&#039;re then advocating or reinforcing a sort of meritocratic fiction of the &#039;marketplace of ideas&#039; that seem to mask a relation of force, a disparity of power and real operations that uphold and privilege certain discourses over others? are there circumstances where we can justly occupy a position of intransigence? is grace or compassion the only poetic challenge we can face against despicable acts of &quot;power&quot;? is consensus the only way to &quot;move forward&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geez, i should be working. but it&#8217;s been a while since i&#8217;ve remembered to stop by this site and read. because i haven&#8217;t had the opportunity to closely follow this blog, this passage lacks context for me other than a conversation we had over the phone while i was shopping about otherness and the polarization of political discourse. </p>
<p>so, because of that, i&#8217;m not sure what your post is trying to communicate. are you saying that patient translation of difference, compassionate negotiation of otherness, allows for a more productive or just relation of exchange? i&#8217;m not sure if i dispute that. but then i wonder, also, if you&#8217;re then advocating or reinforcing a sort of meritocratic fiction of the &#8216;marketplace of ideas&#8217; that seem to mask a relation of force, a disparity of power and real operations that uphold and privilege certain discourses over others? are there circumstances where we can justly occupy a position of intransigence? is grace or compassion the only poetic challenge we can face against despicable acts of &#8220;power&#8221;? is consensus the only way to &#8220;move forward&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Notes to Self on Political Poetry by contron</title>
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		<dc:creator>contron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey. do you think that in the future you can post something that the rest of us can draw on later. (selfish jerk)</description>
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		<title>Comment on The News is Boring by contron</title>
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		<dc:creator>contron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m still reading.</description>
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		<dc:creator>contron</dc:creator>
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		<description>on some bill maher television show, chris rock had joked that &quot;even if obama wins, he still won&#039;t win because the black man can&#039;t win in america&quot; or something to that effect. and i agreed. i went into election day thinking, somehow, someway, through some cheating or political trickery john mccain will &quot;win&quot; the election just like george bush did in 2000 (florida) and possibly in 2004 (ohio, new mexico). but the turnout for this election was probably too high to cheat and so barack obama won. i was kind of excited and i couldn&#039;t believe it. i don&#039;t believe in the one party, two faction system of authority but here was some &quot;hope&quot; just like they had promised. i am hoping for the best although i feel that the elite society will reap the benefits in the end. he&#039;s a community organizer, he doesn&#039;t come from some elite family, and he has experienced oppression which probably no other in this position has ever experinced. it was pretty exciting to see the open, 1/4 million in attendance rally as opposed to john mccain&#039;s private party. i keep telling myself, as a person of color, this is a positive step even if it is only symbolic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on some bill maher television show, chris rock had joked that &#8220;even if obama wins, he still won&#8217;t win because the black man can&#8217;t win in america&#8221; or something to that effect. and i agreed. i went into election day thinking, somehow, someway, through some cheating or political trickery john mccain will &#8220;win&#8221; the election just like george bush did in 2000 (florida) and possibly in 2004 (ohio, new mexico). but the turnout for this election was probably too high to cheat and so barack obama won. i was kind of excited and i couldn&#8217;t believe it. i don&#8217;t believe in the one party, two faction system of authority but here was some &#8220;hope&#8221; just like they had promised. i am hoping for the best although i feel that the elite society will reap the benefits in the end. he&#8217;s a community organizer, he doesn&#8217;t come from some elite family, and he has experienced oppression which probably no other in this position has ever experinced. it was pretty exciting to see the open, 1/4 million in attendance rally as opposed to john mccain&#8217;s private party. i keep telling myself, as a person of color, this is a positive step even if it is only symbolic.</p>
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		<dc:creator>contron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you should have delivered on your promise and showed a nude photo of ed adner and/or abe vigoda.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Powell Endourses Obama.  Does Polarization Lead to a Third Option?  I Wonder. by graystate</title>
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		<dc:creator>graystate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment on my own post:
According to my blog stats, today one person came to Graystate after searching &quot;Powell + Traitor&quot; in a search engine.  Nice.</description>
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According to my blog stats, today one person came to Graystate after searching &#8220;Powell + Traitor&#8221; in a search engine.  Nice.</p>
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